Is Panorama signficantly slower with Tahoe?

I am hearing about Tahoe’s Glass being significantly slow or laggy. Have others seen performance differences with Panorama on Tahoe?

I have many users who are using 15-year-old Macs, running Mojave, Panorama 6, and are extremely happy with the speed of their work. Think ‘entering of data from registration forms’ kind of stuff. They fly through the forms. Now I am in the midst of moving them to Pano X with new computers, but I do very much believe that they will take a significant hit to their performance, given all of the interface and Unicode-caused performance hits. Today, they are close to getting Terminal-like speed, and I believe they will be unhappy after the conversion is complete.

Thoughts?

When PanX was first launched under Intel processors, I had the same concerns about speed and how users would react to it compared to Pan6. Performance differences were definitely noticeable in the early days.

When Apple transitioned to their own silicon, the M-series processors brought a very welcome improvement — I was genuinely pleased to see how much faster PanX ran. Now, with the M4 processors, I feel like the data-entry experience is finally back to the faster response level we had with Pan6. Code execution, in particular, is much faster than it ever was before.

That said, I haven’t upgraded to Tahoe yet, so I can’t speak to any performance differences there. But up through the current release, I’ve been very happy with how well it performs on Apple silicon.

I’m curious as well to see if there are any real issues with Tahoe.

Robert, you are trying to compare a very fast application on a slow, 15 year old Mac with a fast application now on a very fast new (Apple Silicon) Mac. I am quite sure: No one of your clients will have the time to complain about a lack of speed.

I am hearing about Tahoe’s Glass being significantly slow or laggy.

This has nothing to do with Panorama, but there are confirmed reports of very slow performance of the entire computer on Tahoe if Electron based apps are running (including Slack, Discord, VS Code, Obsidian and many others). This is due to a bug in Electron that interacts poorly with Apple’s window management code. This bug has been fixed in the Electron framework, but each individual app has to come out with a new version that incorporates the newest Electron framework. Last I read, this was proceeding at an uneven pace, but hopefully they will all get upgraded soon.

I have upgraded to Tahoe via beta versions first on a laptop and now the final version on my main computer as well. I have not noticed any speed degradation or problems of any kind so far. I do not run any of the apps that Jim listed in the Electron post, though.

Here is a web page that tracks which Electron apps have/have not been fixed for Tahoe.

As of today some major apps not yet fixed include Dropbox and 1Password.

If you have one the apps that have been fixed, make sure that you are running the updated version.

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Good news from 1Password:

This should be resolved in 1Password version 8.11.14 with the move to a newer version of Electron. It’s using Electron 38.2.0 which doesn’t have the issue.