The menu items in the file menu Open Recent and Open Favorites are only displayed when a database – at least an empty one – is already opened. It would be nice if they would appear, too, when no database is open.
This problem has been in the issue tracker for a year, and I’ve known about it for at least two years. I’ve taken several extended cracks at fixing this, spent days on it, and so far it has me completely stumped.
There are some workarounds – you can open About, Preferences, Site License or Memory Usage in the Panorama menu and then the menu commands come back. Or you can click on the Panorama X icon in the dock – it will create a new empty file.
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Additionally, if you click and hold the Panorama X dock icon for a second it will popup a list of recent files to choose from.
Gary, that’s true, but this popup list of recent items is not really up to date. It seems to grab the list of recent items only one time – when the Mac is restarted – and does not reflect changes in the list of recent documents shown in the Apple menu or in Panorama’s file menu.
Interestingly (at least to me), I have on file that never shows in the Recents menu no matter how frequently I use it. Every other file seems to show but this exception. That file has other issues such as forms not retaining their sizes so maybe there is something else going on with the db.
At some point you probably accidentally checked the Exclude from Recent Menu option for this file. To fix this, choose File>Database Options and uncheck that option.
The intent of this option is if you have a support file that is normally opened automatically by a procedure – perhaps it is open secret. So you never open it manually, and you don’t want it to take up space in the Recents menu.
I think there might be something wrong with your system. On my system, when I open a database and then right click on the dock icon, the file I just opened appears immediately in the first position. Or, perhaps you are not aware that the first position in this dock menu is at the bottom of the menu. The most recent items are listed at the bottom of the menu, not at the top like the Apple menu or in the Panorama menu. This is the standard order – this dock menu (and in fact the other two as well) are created by Apple’s code, not Panorama’s.
Jim - as far as I know I never looked at that option when I try and
check the setting I get an error “Field or Variable [active
PreferncePanel] does not exist.”
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After dismissing the error message, which I should have done before
responding, the exclude option was unchecked.
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July 10tansey:
I have on file that never shows in the Recents menu no matter how frequently I use it.At some point you probably accidentally checked the /Exclude from
Recent Menu/ option for this file. To fix this, choose /File>Database
Options/ and uncheck that option.The intent of this option is if you have a support file that is
normally opened automatically by a procedure – perhaps it is open
secret. So you never open it manually, and you don’t want it to take
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July 10Interestingly (at least to me), I have on file that never shows in the
Recents menu no matter how frequently I use it. Every other file seems
to show but this exception. That file has other issues such as forms
not retaining their sizes so maybe there is something else going on
with the db.
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That appears to be a bug I recently fixed, though I can’t find a mention of it in my change notes. However, I see the same error message when I try to open that dialog in the 1943 build (the one you have). It works fine on my development build. This makes some sense as I have been doing quite a bit of work on this dialog in the last 2 weeks.
I think that is because of the error – the dialog isn’t getting set up properly. When you get the next version I think you’ll find that the option actually is checked. Sorry about that. You might be able to fix the problem now by checking then unchecking the option, then pressing OK. I’m not sure if that will work, though.
Didn’t seem to fix it with the checking and unchecking. After checking
the first time and clicking OK, when I came back it was unchecked. Tried
it again and now I get an error “Dialog program error — dialog will be
aborted.” followed by “Resume statement failed (no Pause).” I will wait
for the next version to see if it is fixed.
Any ideas on why form windows don’t hold there size. I have several in
this database, and in another, I have a Tab Panel that disappears if I
click on a link inside of a web object. I can send the otherwise very
simple databases if that would help.
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July 11tansey:
when I try and check the setting I get an error "Field or Variable [active PreferncePanel] does not exist."That appears to be a bug I recently fixed, though I can’t find a
mention of it in my change notes. However, I see the same error
message when I try to open that dialog in the 1943 build (the one you
have). It works fine on my development build. This makes some sense as
I have been doing quite a bit of work on this dialog in the last 2 weeks.tansey:
After dismissing the error message, which I should have done before responding, the exclude option was uncheckedI think that is because of the error – the dialog isn’t getting set
up properly. When you get the next version I think you’ll find that
the option actually is checked. Sorry about that. You might be able to
fix the problem now by checking then unchecking the option, then
pressing OK. I’m not sure if that will work, though.
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No idea. Sending the file(s) would be the best course of action. Also, maybe I can fix the No Recent thing and send it back to you.
Sorry, I do not think very much is wrong on my Mac. It has a quite fresh installed system (10.11.5) and a new SSD as well as enough RAM. And what I see is there is a “static” popup dock menu of recent files that is NOT refreshed with each and every file I am using. Since this way does not work here, I am using a third party software (Trickster by Apparent Software) to stay up to date with my recent Panorama X files.
I append a screenshot showing the difference between Trickster on the left (showing my “real” recent files) and the dock icon’s popup menu.
@KJM Maybe you have third party software that is causing this dock menu problem? Is anyone else seeing this problem with recent items in the dock menu? The dock menu is not maintained by Panorama’s code – the system updates this menu automatically, so I can’t imagine how I could fix a problem there – there is literally NO code in Panorama that has anything to do with that menu.
I have a long list of items in my Open Favorities… But due to the number of db files that I have on my drive, from time to time I reorganize and create new directories for wiser placement. This though then throws errors for all of the files that have been moved.
Rather than throw an error, how about a dialog that says, ‘Sorry, I can’t find that file. Would you show it to me again?’ and then presenting an Open File dialog. It would be a bit less work for me, and it would offer a bit of humility, though perhaps misplaced, along the way.
A better solution would be to not lose track of the moved files in the first place.
In the meantime I wonder if you have noticed that a Favorites panel was recently added to the Preferences window. This makes it relatively easy to edit Favorites. You can even drag a file from the Finder onto this panel.
I am not seeing a Favorites panel in the Preferences.
I am aware that files can be dragged into the Edit Favorites, Favorite Databases window.
Oops, sorry, that’s in b31. I added it just a few days after b30 was released, so I got confused and thought it had already been released.
That ghost that was too often checking the ‘Exclude from Recent Menu’ is back.
This bug was squashed a while back but somehow has resurrected itself. It was supposed to be a 1 time get it unchecked and that did work for several months but alas, there it is again.
One time per affected database, not one time and all affected databases are resolved.